Wikipedia:城市論壇 (技術)/歸檔/2021年12月
呢次嘅歸檔係由Shinjiman ⇔ ♨響2022年1月20號 (四) 03:34 (UTC)做嘅。
備份AppleDaily Hongkong資料嘅技術討論
編輯請緊急向「機械人」落命令,打尖將《蘋果日報》網站參考大量留底,例如用Internet Archive。
編輯再過一陣間,就可能連個網站都冇埋咖喇。若果冇咗紀錄,遲下人哋要用「消息來源核實唔到」做藉口嚟改寫,就有排詏咖喇!另外,發現間公司搏命噉擺緊啲罐頭稿上網……(https://hk.appledaily.com/local/20210623/ICYSMKBH6VAUVEMPTOILJ5MJLM/)--110.174.132.162(討論) 2021年6月23號 (三) 12:39 (UTC)
過零點鐘後嘅討論
編輯依家時分確定咗多個網上平台嘅賬戶經已消失咗,亦相信唔少朋友透過唔同技術手段存底咗AppleDaily嘅資料,本地度可否討論可能匯集同整理返一個AppleDaily backup索引,便利後續嘅重新利用。兼係咪協同關聯嘅社群尋求維基(全域)技術人等提供返必要嘅資源同支援,一齊協作或可繼續增進唔同嘅發展。——Longway22 (傾偈) 2021年6月24號 (四) 00:58 (UTC)
- @Longway22、H78c67c、Z423x5c6:我見隔離維基Sun8908近排喺到用InternetArchiveBot將呢類資料快速備份。可惜我哋粵維呢邊嘅人冇心同唔識去留意呢啲嘢,同時未見中文維基嘅人會咁好心地幫我哋呢邊做埋(甚至唔會喺論壇到留言叫我哋咁做)。詳情可以參考人哋嘅做法:zh:Special:diff/66233151(例如佢將hk.appledaily.com存檔)。特克斯特 (傾偈) 2021年6月27號 (日) 18:44 (UTC)
- 已經錯過咗嘅唔止得蘋果日報,重有香港電台、852郵報……請操作到相關「機械人」嘅朋友,注意下危危乎嗰啲……--110.174.132.162([[User talk:|討論]]) 2021年6月27號 (日) 21:54 (UTC)
- 警報!立場新聞已經退咗一大步,情況不容樂觀,要處理就快啲郁手喇!(https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/ch/component/k2/1597942-20210627.htm)--110.174.132.162(討論) 2021年6月28號 (一) 22:41 (UTC)
- Winandmac Media情況類似。雖然喺道嘅用量唔大,但係入開指令時,不妨做埋。(https://www.winandmac.com/2021/06/winandmac-media-left-hk/)--110.174.132.162(討論) 2021年6月30號 (三) 00:56 (UTC)
- 或者直接去呢度提出。@Shinjiman:@H78c67c:或者要整個過濾器偵測有冇用戶新增立場新聞或者以上網站嘅參考,提醒佢哋呢啲網頁會隨時冇咗,叫埋佢哋加返喺Wayback Machine、archive.is等留底網站嘅連結入{{Cite news}}。SC96 (傾偈) 2021年7月1號 (四) 00:51 (UTC)
- 提醒下各位,由於蘋果日報不朽有印刷版,按學術常規,永遠都可以用嚟做參考資料。Internet Archive或archive.today有幫網頁版留底嘅話,就唔使多講。萬一冇,都可以靠睇實物或者慧科電子剪報之類嘅嘢。重有,引述格式有啲唔同。另外,網上討論區同內容農場會向大家指引下某篇報道焉日出街……以前冇預料到,內容農場都有可愛一面……--110.174.132.162(討論) 2021年7月13號 (二) 20:26 (UTC)
- 或者直接去呢度提出。@Shinjiman:@H78c67c:或者要整個過濾器偵測有冇用戶新增立場新聞或者以上網站嘅參考,提醒佢哋呢啲網頁會隨時冇咗,叫埋佢哋加返喺Wayback Machine、archive.is等留底網站嘅連結入{{Cite news}}。SC96 (傾偈) 2021年7月1號 (四) 00:51 (UTC)
- Winandmac Media情況類似。雖然喺道嘅用量唔大,但係入開指令時,不妨做埋。(https://www.winandmac.com/2021/06/winandmac-media-left-hk/)--110.174.132.162(討論) 2021年6月30號 (三) 00:56 (UTC)
- 警報!立場新聞已經退咗一大步,情況不容樂觀,要處理就快啲郁手喇!(https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/ch/component/k2/1597942-20210627.htm)--110.174.132.162(討論) 2021年6月28號 (一) 22:41 (UTC)
- 而家先睇到,發現我唔係冇試過好似隔離維基噉用InternetArchiveBot存檔[1],只係喺度好似唔係好work到,啱啱重新提交咗[2][3]。--Sun8908(傾偈) 2021年11月14號 (日) 04:32 (UTC)
- 已經錯過咗嘅唔止得蘋果日報,重有香港電台、852郵報……請操作到相關「機械人」嘅朋友,注意下危危乎嗰啲……--110.174.132.162([[User talk:|討論]]) 2021年6月27號 (日) 21:54 (UTC)
- @Longway22、特克斯特:、110.174.132.162:lihkg
.com /thread /2626696 /page /1、collection .news,參考下。H78c67c·傾偈 2021年7月22號 (四) 00:12 (UTC) - 非常感謝有心人嘅貢獻!如果冇其他規例或技術嘅問題,係咪可以開robot批量處理下apple嘅死鏈 Longway22 (傾偈) 2021年7月22號 (四) 06:55 (UTC)
- @Longway22:佢哋嘅新聞內容存檔亦都做得幾好。不過呢到都係要防止出現似隔離社群Walter Grassroot嘅用戶出現(即係將來可能要做嘅應對方法),佢哋個邊一喺香港蘋果日報關閉後,就即係批量刪走嗮蘋果嘅新聞來源。特克斯特 (傾偈) 2021年7月22號 (四) 09:49 (UTC)
- 有高手嚟打編輯戰嘅話,公正嘅處理方法,係以開打前嘅狀態完全保護一排,寧願啲消息舊啲,都唔好畀佢變到亂七八糟;九流搞屎棍就好易搞。希望管理員明白係咩意思啦。--110.174.132.162(討論) 2021年7月22號 (四) 11:37 (UTC)
- @Longway22:佢哋嘅新聞內容存檔亦都做得幾好。不過呢到都係要防止出現似隔離社群Walter Grassroot嘅用戶出現(即係將來可能要做嘅應對方法),佢哋個邊一喺香港蘋果日報關閉後,就即係批量刪走嗮蘋果嘅新聞來源。特克斯特 (傾偈) 2021年7月22號 (四) 09:49 (UTC)
- 非常感謝有心人嘅貢獻!如果冇其他規例或技術嘅問題,係咪可以開robot批量處理下apple嘅死鏈 Longway22 (傾偈) 2021年7月22號 (四) 06:55 (UTC)
文章自動連去wikidata
編輯@H78c67c: 由於我最近開緊法國小鎮嘅文,但係連去wikidata全部需要靠人手,好似有啲費時。我想問下有冇一啲自動連去wikidata嘅辦法?唔該晒。Limfurg·傾偈 2021年6月26號 (六) 07:44 (UTC)
- @Limfurg: 可以試下喺文章最底加跨維基連結,等機械人自動搬去wikidata度。H78c67c·傾偈 2021年6月26號 (六) 20:44 (UTC)
- @H78c67c: 我試開咗幾版。我想問下噉啲機械人係要自己開一個定係點?Limfurg·傾偈 2021年6月27號 (六) 03:48 (UTC)
- 幾年前都有機械人會做呢類工作,而家可能因為需求極低,似乎已經無機械人會主動幫手執手尾,結果留低一大堆蘇州屎。--Yaukasin (傾偈) 2021年7月12號 (一) 14:42 (UTC)
- @H78c67c: 我試開咗幾版。我想問下噉啲機械人係要自己開一個定係點?Limfurg·傾偈 2021年6月27號 (六) 03:48 (UTC)
建議加個過濾器禁止文章直接用Wikidata模
編輯知大家近排好努力開新文章,但有啲位真係過咗火。有人開文直接將Wikidata模同Wikidata entity link模(Q模)放入正文,好彩之後SC96幫手清走。其實都已經有 Template:維基數據人物明細 可以直接讀維基數據資料啦。如果情況唔改善,可以考慮用過濾器阻止文章空間直接加呢啲模。--Kowlooner (傾偈) 2021年6月27號 (日) 13:06 (UTC)
- 之後係有改變過,不過User:Bosco1122最好都係唔好太倚賴維基數據資料,唔係嘅話隨時出事之餘,執又執到嘔:《激情‧別動》《凶相》SC96 (傾偈) 2021年7月11號 (日) 02:35 (UTC)
- 目標題目未有本站文章嘅時候,我覺得連去維基數據可以接受,好似其他跨維基連結噉。但係排版要執下。翹仔 (傾偈) 2021年8月17號 (二) 16:31 (UTC)
「Category:有XX文嘅文章」翻譯問題
編輯見到「Category:有Malay (macrolanguage)嘅文章」呢個譯啲唔譯啲嘅自動生成分類,有無人知道邊度可以改譯名?多文想要嘅分類都有唔少,譬如「有Greek嘅文章」、「有Persian嘅文章」、「有Hebrew嘅文章」......,數量都唔少。--Kowlooner (傾偈) 2021年7月4號 (日) 14:38 (UTC)
- 呢個係有需要改Module:Lang同埋佢哋旗下嘅Lua模組,當中包括但唔限於Module:Language/data/iana languages等。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年7月5號 (一) 00:40 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Tech News
- The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 19 July.
Recent changes
- AutoWikiBrowser is a tool to make repetitive tasks easier. It now uses JSON.
Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage
has moved toWikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPageJSON
andWikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Config
.Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage/Version
has moved toWikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage/VersionJSON
. The tool will eventually be configured on the wiki so that you don't have to wait until the new version to add templates or regular expression fixes. [4]
Problems
- InternetArchiveBot helps saving online sources on some wikis. It adds them to Wayback Machine and links to them there. This is so they don't disappear if the page that was linked to is removed. It currently has a problem with linking to the wrong date when it moves pages from
archive.is
toweb.archive.org
. [5]
Changes later this week
- The tool to find, add and remove templates will be updated. This is to make it easier to find and use the right templates. It will come to the first wikis on 7 July. It will come to more wikis later this year. [6][7]
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Future changes
- Some Wikimedia wikis use Flagged Revisions or pending changes. It hides edits from new and unregistered accounts for readers until they have been patrolled. The auto review action in Flagged Revisions will no longer be logged. All old logs of auto-review will be removed. This is because it creates a lot of logs that are not very useful. [8]
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2021年7月5號 (一) 17:33 (UTC)
繁简转换工具似有问题
編輯劉賓雁中作品一段原页面表格展开正常,打开简体转换后无法展开表格(即:表格展开折叠链接不好用了)(注:个人原因无法使用粤语提报)--SD hehua (傾偈) 2021年7月13號 (二) 07:30 (UTC)
- 唔識完整解決。要臨時繞過,就攤開咗再轉簡體啦。--110.174.132.162(討論) 2021年7月13號 (二) 23:48 (UTC)
- 多謝啦--SD hehua (傾偈) 2021年7月14號 (三) 04:59 (UTC)
- 昨天w:zh:萌娘百科#H萌娘引入了这个工具,发现这个问题后,管理员琢磨了一晚上,加了一段代码解决了,这段代码和你说的一样,就是不用用户自己展开再转换了,点击繁简转换时,他会将页面所有折叠的都变成展开的
- 多謝啦--SD hehua (傾偈) 2021年7月14號 (三) 04:59 (UTC)
只需在
str=str.replace(/([^\u0000-\u1f00])/g,"`$1"); 后面加入 str=str.replace(/\<tr style\=\"display\: none\;/g,'<tr');
即可,另外实现了在mw1.31.15移动端也生效的方法,不过这个方法不适合mw1.37,就不再赘述了,管理员表示谢谢你的代码,给了他很大的参考,祝愿您have a good day! 您们可以参考一下--SD hehua (傾偈) 2021年7月14號 (三) 08:51 (UTC)
點樣整DisamAssist.js?
編輯我見到隔離維基有用戶將搬文後要更改嘅內部連結,用呢項工具快速更改有問題嘅link。之後我喺呢版抄咗原作者嘅js落User:特克斯特/common.js到。但係我就發現用唔到,唔知邊度出錯。有冇管理員過嚟睇下要點做先可以用到?事關喺Special:邊度鏈去呢版/舒文都有唔少連結要改,我又唔想逐篇文禁入去修改咁浪費時間。同埋粵維都有唔少搬過文嘅文章,要全面睇下啲連結有邊啲係未修正返。特克斯特 (傾偈) 2021年7月15號 (四) 15:32 (UTC)
- 閣下可能要比較埋呢個,設定嘅版名同埋模名要跟返呢度嘅,先至會認得返佢哋。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年7月16號 (五) 00:57 (UTC)
由中維翻譯嘅文章經常出現「Unknown parameter |dead-url= ignored」錯誤
編輯發現好多由中維翻譯嘅文章經常出現「Unknown parameter |dead-url= ignored」錯誤,原因相信係中維支援dead-url嘅參數但粵維唔支援。我用相同文字貼過英維Sandbox預覽,英維一樣都唔支援dead-url嘅參數,dead-url呢個參數似乎係中維獨有。
有兩個解決方法:一係將粵維引入支援dead-url嘅參數,但恐怕會令粵維變得「中維化」,變相鼓勵人將中維嘅內容直接貼過嚟;一係就將「dead-url」引入粵維濫用過濾器,當有人貼嘅內容包含「dead-url」,就會出提示要求佢清走,又或者好似「國維行話」加個Tag方便識別。--XRTIER (傾偈) 2021年7月16號 (五) 15:06 (UTC)
- 喺上面嘅提議之外,仲可以搵多部機械人嚟執,改dead-url=yes做url-status=dead就可以搞得掂呢個問題。(英維嘅大約喺2019年9月左右開始利用url-status參數) Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年7月16號 (五) 16:29 (UTC)
假闢謠高招研究
編輯介紹種頗勁卻簡單嘅消息造假招式,警惕大家提防下……舊年,網上流傳張相,睇落似乎係某國前糉桶個女張訊用咭,俾人用咗嚟𠝹話唔定係可樂嘅白色粉末(https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10158348116282561)(https://web.archive.org/web/20201026191041/https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10158348116282561 )。有個某國嘅事實核查網站(https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/oct/27/instagram-posts/malia-obama-credit-card-photo-isnt-new-and-theres-/ )(https://web.archive.org/web/20210715115339/https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/oct/27/instagram-posts/malia-obama-credit-card-photo-isnt-new-and-theres-/ ),引用另一個網站(https://mtonews.com/hackers-stole-malia-obamas-credit-card-posted-it-online )嘅所謂舊聞嚟闢謠,指張相喺上一年已經通咗天而確認咗係陷害,兼俾人報道過,今次只係有人將佢當做由某國現糉桶個仔嘅珍藏嚟翻炒。然而,嗰個網站設定到Internet Archive抄唔低(https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://mtonews.com/hackers-stole-malia-obamas-credit-card-posted-it-online ),錯誤訊息係「Sorry.……This URL has been excluded from the Wayback Machine.」。當然,噉樣最多只係顯示到個闢謠未必堅,證明唔到佢係流嘅。不過,最少顯示到,可以按呢個陰謀論,做啲修改來圖謀不軌——平民使些少錢(營運個冇乜人睇嘅小道消息網站,或者畀錢叫同類公司加加篇錯日期嘅報道),就可以隨便來次假闢謠,技術要求亦都唔高(喺網站道加啲編碼,阻止主要網站備份系統做嘢)……更強嘅勢力,甚至有本事叫網站留底機構協調;改個日期有幾難啫?又唔係話有區塊鍊之類嘅技術作證……--110.174.132.162(討論) 2021年7月15號 (四) 12:53 (UTC)
- 雖然嗰個事實核查網站攞過普立茲獎,但係都唔代表永遠要對佢研究嘅嘢照單全收;正如攞過諾貝爾獎嘅幕賢,啱啱被證明咗其實好水皮(https://rfi.my/7Zay )。因為新聞界同文學界嘅水準有時好低,所以唔應該喺道整任何可靠或者唔可靠參考來源列表,以防止無視學術原則嘅搞屎棍多咗一件搗亂用具。--110.174.132.162(討論) 2021年7月15號 (四) 12:31 (UTC)
- 為咗好好哋記載資料,政商文界、中外多國、黑白兩道……咸世界得罪嗮……萬一本IP地址突然之間被元維基永久封鎖,唔使驚訝。--110.174.132.162(討論) 2021年7月15號 (四) 12:55 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The tool to find, add and remove templates was updated. This is to make it easier to find and use the right templates. It was supposed to come to the first wikis on 7 July. It was delayed to 12 July instead. It will come to more wikis later this year. [9][10]
- Special:UnconnectedPages lists pages that are not connected to Wikidata. This helps you find pages that can be connected to Wikidata items. Some pages should not be connected to Wikidata. You can use the magic word
__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__
on pages that should not be listed on the special page. [11]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 July. It will be on all wikis from 22 July (calendar).
Future changes
- How media is structured in the parser's HTML output will soon change. This can affect bots, gadgets, user scripts and extensions. You can read more. You can test it on Testwiki or Testwiki 2.
- The parameters for how you obtain tokens in the MediaWiki API were changed in 2014. The old way will no longer work from 1 September. Scripts, bots and tools that use the parameters from before the 2014 change need to be updated. You can read more.
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2021年7月19號 (一) 15:31 (UTC)
北方話過濾器嚇走哂啲熱心新人!
編輯IP友只准一個一個噉加多數禁字/詞落去,有啲就直呈每次一個都唔過關。好多中國人唔開户口,就係費事俾美國情報機構得到太多私穩資料,點知試第一次就撞到個北(起碼佢哋係噉覺得),然後試多幾次都唔得,咪講句粗口,跟住掉頭走囉。啲義工要有若干成功經驗,先至會畀心機摸熟套規則,進而開個户口,成日返嚟加料咖。--110.174.132.162(討論) 2021年7月22號 (四) 03:32 (UTC)
- 稜鏡計劃被披露之後,世人終於知道咗,美國政府用大量駭客擾亂寰宇秩序,令白色恐怖籠罩全球。有幾多人會相信,英文維基諸多管理員當中,冇一個會向美國財閥同政客出賣用户資料呢?當美國官方駭客想搞破壞,根本唔會執着嗰幾個字;要嫁禍華人嘅話,亦大可以用通行無阻嘅簡體字;語文高手出招時,就肯定會視呢種雕蟲小技如無物添。--110.174.132.162(討論) 2021年7月22號 (四) 03:32 (UTC)
- 稍為放寛啲限制些少,好嗎?不如校到每次准放三個二等禁字/詞,頭等禁字/詞都准每次放一個呢!當然,冇門檻就肯定唔得嘅。--110.174.132.162(討論) 2021年7月22號 (四) 03:32 (UTC)
- 話時話嘞。若果各位想有多啲一入場就識基本規則嘅人的話,認真要靠人搭人。想發展,一係就打開大門(超級市場式),一係就揾中介人(講緊你哋呀!)密密拉客(保險公司式)。道門半掩,又唔揾人,好難搞大檔嘢咖喎。當然,其實安貧樂道都得嘅……種瓜得瓜,種豆得豆,咪奢望囉。--110.174.132.162(討論) 2021年7月22號 (四) 11:29 (UTC)
- 我想講下呢,其實你簽唔簽到改嘢都好,個網站收到嘅資料大致上都係一樣嘅。只係開咗個戶口,你可以收埋自己個IP地址,又唔使畀額外嘅個人資料。可以睇到你個人資料嘅人,淨係得CheckUser,仲要淨係睇到你嘅IP地址(都已經公開咗啦)同埋你嘅瀏覽器user agent。H78c67c·傾偈 2021年7月22號 (四) 18:27 (UTC)
- 分享下愚見啫。對於已經編輯咗一排嘅人來講,啲過濾器頂多導致完成版嘅格式無咁靚之嘛,問題唔大。另外,閣下嘅CheckUser介紹點出咗新知;某版本維基嘅(多數幾句)追查報告往往寫得太神奇,令人誤會咗。唔該哂!--110.174.132.162(討論) 2021年7月23號 (五) 06:38 (UTC)
- 稍為放寛啲限制些少,好嗎?不如校到每次准放三個二等禁字/詞,頭等禁字/詞都准每次放一個呢!當然,冇門檻就肯定唔得嘅。--110.174.132.162(討論) 2021年7月22號 (四) 03:32 (UTC)
- 可以睇吓Wikipedia:點解要開個戶口?,呢度有詳細嘅講解。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年7月26號 (一) 03:47 (UTC)
- 多謝循循善誘!或者有一日,理解完某啲技術問題之後,以保護私穩防止駭客侵害為目的噉樣開個户口,到時你哋未必辨認得到。本用户唔志在「經驗值」多;相信畀人哋認到風格正常,唔會魯莽封鎖就夠咖喇。--110.174.132.162(討論) 2021年8月2號 (一) 11:39 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- A new version of MediaWiki came to the Wikimedia wikis the week before last week. This was not in Tech News because there was no newsletter that week.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 27 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 28 July. It will be on all wikis from 29 July (calendar).
Future changes
- If you use the Monobook skin you can choose to switch off responsive design on mobile. This will now work for more skins. If
⧼monobook-responsive-label⧽
is unticked you need to also untick the new preferenceEnable responsive mode
. Otherwise it will stop working. Interface admins can automate this process on your wiki. You can read more.
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2021年7月26號 (一) 21:11 (UTC)
問題見wikt:zh:Module:User:Qnm。將改爲“13,770,908個世紀26年327日6個鐘54分鐘8秒”。 EdwardAlexanderCrowley (傾偈) 2021年7月30號 (五) 13:10 (UTC)
- 呢個要睇返個單位量喺粵文界喺點用嘅,有部份嘅未必同語體中文嘅量詞完全一致。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年8月11號 (三) 06:55 (UTC)
- @EdwardAlexanderCrowley:我認為粵語沒有必要去除「千年」。「1,377,090個千年8個世紀26年327日6個鐘54分鐘8秒」更佳。 -- RZuo (傾偈) 2021年8月28號 (六) 21:01 (UTC)
- @RZuo:屆時將通過
mw.language.new('yue'):formatDuration(43456789123999999, {'millennia', 'centuries', 'years', 'days', 'hours', 'minutes', 'seconds'})
實現,見此。須知本改動不只針對粵文維基,所有使用mediawiki的站點都會受影響,所以要以所有說粵語的人的習慣爲主。生活中用不到100世紀的數量級。 - @Shinjiman:量詞改動在translatewiki進行,如[12]。 EdwardAlexanderCrowley (傾偈) 2021年8月29號 (日) 00:48 (UTC)
- 你說對了,要按生活習慣。生活習慣就沒有人「千年世紀年」這樣說話,用到的最大單位只有年。反正不符合習慣,那麼千年與世紀粵語都可以用,唯一不用的是年代,因為年代指一段時間而不用作時間計量。 RZuo (傾偈) 2021年8月30號 (一) 15:33 (UTC)
- @EdwardAlexanderCrowley. RZuo (傾偈) 2021年9月2號 (四) 13:34 (UTC)
- 「千年」更沒人用,人類歷史幾千年,「2個千年8個世紀26年327日6個鐘54分鐘8秒」不如「28個世紀26年327日6個鐘54分鐘8秒」簡潔。 EdwardAlexanderCrowley (傾偈) 2021年9月2號 (四) 13:58 (UTC)
- @RZuo:屆時將通過
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- If your wiki uses markup like
<div class="mw-content-ltr">
or<div class="mw-content-rtl">
without the requireddir
attribute, then these will no longer work in 2 weeks. There is a short-term fix that can be added to your local wiki's Common.css page, which is explained at T287701. From now on, all usages should include the full attributes, for example:<div class="mw-content-ltr" dir="ltr" lang="en">
or<div class="mw-content-rtl" dir="rtl" lang="he">
. This also applies to some other HTML tags, such asspan
orcode
. You can find existing examples on your wiki that need to be updated, using the instructions at T287701. - Reminder: Wikimedia has migrated to the Libera Chat IRC network, from the old Freenode network. Local documentation should be updated.
Problems
- Last week, all wikis had slow access or no access for 30 minutes. There was a problem with generating dynamic lists of articles on the Russian Wikinews, due to the bulk import of 200,000+ new articles over 3 days, which led to database problems. The problematic feature has been disabled on that wiki and developers are discussing if it can be fixed properly. [13][14]
Changes later this week
- When adding links to a page using VisualEditor or the 2017 wikitext editor, disambiguation pages will now only appear at the bottom of search results. This is because users do not often want to link to disambiguation pages. [15]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 August. It will be on all wikis from 5 August (calendar).
Future changes
- The team of the Wikipedia app for Android is working on communication in the app. The developers are working on how to talk to other editors and get notifications. You can read more. They are looking for users who want to test the plans. Any editor who has an Android phone and is willing to download the app can do this.
- The Beta Feature for 討論工具 will be updated in the coming weeks. You will be able to subscribe to individual sections on a talk page at more wikis. You can test this now by adding
?dtenable=1
to the end of the talk page's URL (example).
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2021年8月2號 (一) 20:47 (UTC)
關於中西、中 latex、中數混排陣時啲空格
編輯係咪可以有種方法實現到數據層面混排可以嘸𤗈空格但顯示上𤗈有空格?(CSS?)而今好似嘸係幾統一,印象中@Dr. Greywolf:𤗈慣,我好多情況下都𤗈。
𤗈空格好處:
- 混排陣時睇得清晰尐仔
𤗈空格勩處:
- 搜索陣時會有兩種形態(𤗈有空格或者冇𤗈有)
一尐域外討論供參睇(中英文混排时中文与英文之间是否要有空格?(知乎;簡體官話文)) 汩汩银泉 (傾偈) 2021年8月5號 (四) 01:05 (UTC)
- 我都慣係將中英文之間加上空格,喺我啲電腦上面好睇好多,其他腦唔知。有時執開現成啲文嘅 format,都會加喺文中英文之間加上空格。印象之中,CSS 用 "letter-spacing" 控制字距。不過,唔清楚技術上以唔同 language (script)喺 inline 嘅情況,分成唔同 spacing?!
- 反而,個文章題目名,有中西混文嘅時侯 (e.g. Runge-Kutta法)可以做加空格--WikiCantona (傾偈) 2021年8月5號 (四) 02:08 (UTC)
- 如果大家乖乖地用
{{lang|en|English}}
標明英文詞嘅話,用CSS應該好易搞。H78c67c·傾偈 2021年8月5號 (四) 02:47 (UTC)
span[lang=en]::before, span[lang=en]::after, .mwe-math-element::before, .mwe-math-element::after {
content:' '
}
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- You can read but not edit 17 wikis for a few minutes on 10 August. This is planned at 05:00 UTC. This is because of work on the database. [16]
Changes later this week
- The Wikimania Hackathon will take place remotely on 13 August, starting at 5:00 UTC, for 24 hours. You can participate in many ways. You can still propose projects and sessions.
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 August. It will be on all wikis from 12 August (calendar).
- The old CSS
<div class="visualClear"></div>
will not be supported after 12 August. Instead, templates and pages should use<div style="clear:both;"></div>
. Please help to replace any existing uses on your wiki. There are global-search links available at T287962.
Future changes
- The Wikipedia Library is a place for Wikipedia editors to get access to sources. There is an extension which has a new function to tell users when they can take part in it. It will use notifications. It will start pinging the first users in September. It will ping more users later. [17]
- Vue.js will be the JavaScript framework for MediaWiki in the future. [18]
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2021年8月9號 (一) 16:20 (UTC)
用『大量訊息傳送』嘅嘢必須要過濾不必要嘅語言後先至放得上嚟
編輯(呢個主要係影響由維基元或者支援由大量傳送嘅網站傳送嘅多語言大量傳送選擇訊息)
呢個問題都出現咗好幾年嘅時間,所以會喺2021年9月1號起會實行呢個規限,大量訊息投放者一定要做咗語言選擇之後先至放得到嗰句訊息上嚟呢度。詳細情況請睇phab:T254607,以及有關嘅貢獻。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年8月12號 (四) 01:35 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can add language links in the sidebar in the new Vector skin again. You do this by connecting the page to a Wikidata item. The new Vector skin has moved the language links but the new language selector cannot add language links yet. [19]
Problems
- There was a problem on wikis which use the Translate extension. Translations were not updated or were replaced with the English text. The problems have been fixed. [20][21][22]
Changes later this week
- A revision tag will soon be added to edits that add links to disambiguation pages. This is because these links are usually added by accident. The tag will allow editors to easily find the broken links and fix them. If your wiki does not like this feature, it can be hidden. [23]
- Would you like to help improve the information about tools? Would you like to attend or help organize a small virtual meetup for your community to discuss the list of tools? Please get in touch on the Toolhub Quality Signal Sessions talk page. We are also looking for feedback from tool maintainers on some specific questions.
- In the past, edits to any page in your user talk space ignored your mute list, e.g. sub-pages. Starting this week, this is only true for edits to your talk page. [24]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 August. It will be on all wikis from 19 August (calendar).
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2021年8月16號 (一) 19:27 (UTC)
Universal Code of Conduct - Enforcement draft guidelines review
編輯The Universal Code of Conduct Phase 2 drafting committee would like comments about the enforcement draft guidelines for the Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC). This review period is planned for 17 August 2021 through 17 October 2021.
These guidelines are not final but you can help move the progress forward. The committee will revise the guidelines based upon community input.
Comments can be shared in any language on the draft review talk page and multiple other venues. Community members are encouraged to organize conversations in their communities.
There are planned live discussions about the UCoC enforcement draft guidelines:
- Wikimania 2021 session (recorded 16 August)
- Conversation hours - 24 August, 31 August, 7 September @ 03:00 UTC & 14:00 UTC
- Roundtable calls - 18 September @ 03:00 UTC & 15:00 UTC
Summaries of discussions will be posted every two weeks here.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Universal Code of Conduct - Enforcement draft guidelines review
編輯Please translate this message into Chinese, and start the discussion in the local, Thank you!
The Universal Code of Conduct Phase 2 drafting committee would like comments about the enforcement draft guidelines for the Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC). This review period is planned to begin 17 August 2021.
Community and staff members collaborated to develop these draft guidelines based on consultations, discussions, and research. These guidelines are not final but you can help move the progress forward. Provide comments about these guidelines by 17 October 2021. The committee will be revising the guidelines based upon community input.
Everyone may share comments in a number of places. Facilitators welcome comments in any language on the draft review talk page or by email. Comments can also be shared on talk pages of translations, at local discussions, or during round-table discussions and conversation hours.
There are planned live discussions about the UCoC enforcement draft guidelines:
- Wikimania 2021 session (recorded 16 August)
- Conversation hours - 24 August, 31 August, 7 September @ 03:00 UTC & 14:00 UTC
- Roundtable calls - 18 September @ 03:00 UTC & 15:00 UTC
The facilitation team supporting this review period hopes to reach a large number of communities. Having a shared understanding is important. If you do not see a conversation happening in your community, please organize a discussion. Facilitators can assist you in setting up the conversations.
Discussions will be summarized and presented to the drafting committee every two weeks. The summaries will be published here.
Please let me know if you have any questions. --MediaWiki message delivery (傾偈) 2021年8月18號 (三) 04:01 (UTC)
Wikimedia Foundation Election 2021 is now stated
編輯Voting for the 2021 Board of Trustees election is now open. Candidates from the community were asked to submit their candidacy. After a three week long Call for Candidates, there are 19 candidates for the 2021 election.
The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees oversees the Wikimedia Foundation's operations. The Board wants to improve their competences and diversity as a team. They have shared the areas of expertise that they are hoping to cover with new trustees.
The Wikimedia movement has the opportunity to select candidates who have the qualities to best serve the needs of the movement for the next several years. The Board is expected to select the four most voted candidates to serve as trustees. This term starts in September and lasts for three years. Learn more about the Board of Trustees in this short video.
Vote now until August 31.
Below is some useful information about the election process.
- Learn more about the candidates
Candidates from across the movement have submitted their candidatures. Learn about each candidate to inform your vote. The community submitted questions for the candidates to answer during the campaign. Candidates answered the list of community questions collated by the Elections Committee on Meta.
- Vote
Voting for the 2021 Board of Trustees election opened on 18 August 2021 and closes on 31 August 2021. The Elections Committee chose Single Transferable Vote for the voting system. The benefit of this is voters can rank their choices in order of preference. Learn more about voting requirements, how to vote, and frequently asked questions about voting.
Please help in the selection of those people who best fit the needs of the movement at this time. Vote and spread the word so more people can vote for candidates. Those selected will help guide the Wikimedia Foundation and support the needs of the movement over the next few years.
Best,
The Elections Committee -- User:YKo (WMF) via MediaWiki message delivery (傾偈) 2021年8月18號 (三) 04:21 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The Score extension (
<score>
notation) has been re-enabled on public wikis and upgraded to a newer version. Some musical score functionality may no longer work because the extension is only enabled in "safe mode". The security issue has been fixed and an advisory published.
Problems
- You will be able to read but not edit some wikis for a few minutes on 25 August. This will happen around 06:00 UTC. This is for database maintenance. During this time, operations on the CentralAuth will also not be possible.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 August. It will be on all wikis from 26 August (calendar).
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2021年8月23號 (一) 21:58 (UTC)
Read-only reminder
編輯A maintenance operation will be performed on Wednesday August 25 06:00 UTC. It should only last for a few minutes.
This will affect your wiki as well as 11 other wikis. During this time, publishing edits will not be possible.
Also during this time, operations on the CentralAuth will not be possible (GlobalRenames, changing/confirming e-mail addresses, logging into new wikis, password changes).
For more details about the operation and on all impacted services, please check on Phabricator.
A banner will be displayed 30 minutes before the operation.
Please help your community to be aware of this maintenance operation. 多謝!
2021年8月24號 (二) 20:35 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Some musical score syntax no longer works and may needed to be updated, you can check Category:Pages with score rendering errors on your wiki for a list of pages with errors.
Problems
- Musical scores were unable to render lyrics in some languages because of missing fonts. This has been fixed now. If your language would prefer a different font, please file a request in Phabricator. [25]
Changes later this week
- The parameters for how you obtain tokens in the MediaWiki API were changed in 2014. The old way will no longer work from 1 September. Scripts, bots and tools that use the parameters from before the 2014 change need to be updated. You can read more about this.
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 31 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 September. It will be on all wikis from 2 September (calendar).
Future changes
- You will be able to read but not edit Commons for a few minutes on 6 September. This will happen around 05:00 UTC. This is for database maintenance.
- All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes in the week of 13 September. More information will be published in Tech News later. It will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [26]
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2021年8月30號 (一) 16:01 (UTC)
Thank you for participating 2021 Board election
編輯Thank you for participating in the 2021 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election! Voting closed August 31 at 23:59. The official data, including the four most voted candidates, will be announced as soon as the Elections Committee completes their review of the ballots. The official announcement of the new trustees appointed will happen later, once the selected candidates have been confirmed by the Board.
6,946 community members from 216 wiki projects have voted. This makes 10.2% global participation, 1.1% higher than in the last Board elections. In 2017, 5167 people from 202 wiki projects cast their vote. A full analysis is planned to be published in a few days when the confirmed results are announced. In the meantime, you can check the data produced during the election.
Diversity was an important goal with these elections. Messages about the Board election were translated into 61 languages. This outreach worked well. There were 70 communities with eligible voters voting in this election for the first time. With your help, next year’s Board of Trustees election will be even better. MediaWiki message delivery (傾偈) via MediaWiki message delivery (傾偈) 2021年9月2號 (四) 04:52 (UTC)
Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election has come to an end
編輯Thank you for participating in the 2021 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election! Voting closed August 31 at 23:59. The official data, including the four most voted candidates, will be announced as soon as the Elections Committee completes their review of the ballots. The official announcement of the new trustees appointed will happen later, once the selected candidates have been confirmed by the Board.
6,946 community members from 216 wiki projects have voted. This makes 10.2% global participation, 1.1% higher than in the last Board elections. In 2017, 5167 people from 202 wiki projects cast their vote. A full analysis is planned to be published in a few days when the confirmed results are announced. In the meantime, you can check the data produced during the election.
Diversity was an important goal with these elections. Messages about the Board election were translated into 61 languages. This outreach worked well. There were 70 communities with eligible voters voting in this election for the first time. With your help, next year’s Board of Trustees election will be even better.
2021年9月2號 (四) 10:03 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The wikis that have Growth features deployed have been part of A/B testing since deployment, in which some newcomers did not receive the new features. Now, all of the newcomers on 21 of the smallest of those wikis will be receiving the features. [27]
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Future changes
- In 2017, the provided jQuery library was upgraded from version 1 to 3, with a compatibility layer. The migration will soon finish, to make the site load faster for everyone. If you maintain a gadget or user script, check if you have any JQMIGRATE errors and fix them, or they will break. [28][29]
- Last year, the Portuguese Wikipedia community embarked on an experiment to make log-in compulsory for editing. The impact report of this trial is ready. Moving forward, the Anti-Harassment Tools team is looking for projects that are willing to experiment with restricting IP editing on their wiki for a short-term experiment. Learn more.
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2021年9月6號 (一) 15:20 (UTC)
The 2022 Community Wishlist Survey will happen in January
編輯Hello everyone,
We hope all of you are as well and safe as possible during these trying times! We wanted to share some news about a change to the Community Wishlist Survey 2022. We would like to hear your opinions as well.
Summary:
We will be running the Community Wishlist Survey 2022 in January 2022. We need more time to work on the 2021 wishes. We also need time to prepare some changes to the Wishlist 2022. In the meantime, you can use a dedicated sandbox to leave early ideas for the 2022 wishes.
Proposing and wish-fulfillment will happen during the same year
編輯In the past, the Community Tech team has run the Community Wishlist Survey for the following year in November of the prior year. For example, we ran the Wishlist for 2021 in November 2020. That worked well a few years ago. At that time, we used to start working on the Wishlist soon after the results of the voting were published.
However, in 2021, there was a delay between the voting and the time when we could start working on the new wishes. Until July 2021, we were working on wishes from the Wishlist for 2020.
We hope having the Wishlist 2022 in January 2022 will be more intuitive. This will also give us time to fulfill more wishes from the 2021 Wishlist.
Encouraging wider participation from historically excluded communities
編輯We are thinking how to make the Wishlist easier to participate in. We want to support more translations, and encourage under-resourced communities to be more active. We would like to have some time to make these changes.
A new space to talk to us about priorities and wishes not granted yet
編輯We will have gone 365 days without a Wishlist. We encourage you to approach us. We hope to hear from you in the talk page, but we also hope to see you at our bi-monthly Talk to Us meetings! These will be hosted at two different times friendly to time zones around the globe.
We will begin our first meeting September 15th at 23:00 UTC. More details about the agenda and format coming soon!
Brainstorm and draft proposals before the proposal phase
編輯If you have early ideas for wishes, you can use the new Community Wishlist Survey sandbox. This way, you will not forget about these before January 2022. You will be able to come back and refine your ideas. Remember, edits in the sandbox don't count as wishes!
Feedback
編輯- What should we do to improve the Wishlist pages?
- How would you like to use our new sandbox?
- What, if any, risks do you foresee in our decision to change the date of the Wishlist 2022?
- What will help more people participate in the Wishlist 2022?
Answer on the talk page (in any language you prefer) or at our Talk to Us meetings.
維基媒體基金會理事會理事選舉結果發表
編輯感謝各位參與咗2021年度理事會選舉,呢次選舉係選出四位新嘅理事,選舉委員會睇晒成份呢次嘅投票結果,有效票數來自214個專案總計6,873人參與過投票,下面四位就係候選人收到最多嘅支持:
- Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
- Victoria Doronina
- Dariusz Jemielniak
- Lorenzo Losa
當呢個社群投票之中呢啲候選人拎到排名,佢哋仲未被成為理事會委任。佢哋仍然要成功經過背景審查並且達到附例列出嘅標準。理事會暫定會喺呢個月嘅月尾去正式任用新嘅成員。
請喺呢度睇完整嘅宣佈。
Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee ending 14 September 2021
編輯Movement Strategy announces the Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee. The Call opens August 2, 2021 and closes September 14, 2021.
The Committee is expected to represent diversity in the Movement. Diversity includes gender, language, geography, and experience. This comprises participation in projects, affiliates, and the Wikimedia Foundation.
English fluency is not required to become a member. If needed, translation and interpretation support is provided. Members will receive an allowance to offset participation costs. It is US$100 every two months.
We are looking for people who have some of the following skills:
- Know how to write collaboratively. (demonstrated experience is a plus)
- Are ready to find compromises.
- Focus on inclusion and diversity.
- Have knowledge of community consultations.
- Have intercultural communication experience.
- Have governance or organization experience in non-profits or communities.
- Have experience negotiating with different parties.
The Committee is expected to start with 15 people. If there are 20 or more candidates, a mixed election and selection process will happen. If there are 19 or fewer candidates, then the process of selection without election takes place.
Will you help move Wikimedia forward in this important role? Submit your candidacy here. Please contact strategy2030 wikimedia.org with questions.
Server switch
編輯Read this message in another language • 請幫手去譯做你嘅語言
The Wikimedia Foundation tests the switch between its first and secondary data centers. This will make sure that Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to do a planned test. This test will show if they can reliably switch from one data centre to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems.
They will switch all traffic back to the primary data center on Tuesday, 14 September 2021.
Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki, all editing must stop while the switch is made. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.
You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.
- You will not be able to edit for up to an hour on Tuesday, 14 September 2021. The test will start at 14:00 UTC (07:00 PDT, 10:00 EDT, 15:00 WEST/BST, 16:00 CEST, 19:30 IST, 23:00 JST, and in New Zealand at 02:00 NZST on Wednesday, 15 September).
- If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.
Other effects:
- Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped. Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.
- We expect the code deployments to happen as any other week. However, some case-by-case code freezes could punctually happen if the operation require them afterwards.
Talk to the Community Tech
編輯Read this message in another language • 請幫手去譯做你嘅語言
Hello!
As we have recently announced, we, the team working on the Community Wishlist Survey, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will take place on September 15th, 23:00 UTC on Zoom, and will last an hour. Click here to join.
Agenda
- How we prioritize the wishes to be granted
- Why we decided to change the date from November 2021 to January 2022
- Update on the disambiguation and the real-time preview wishes
- Questions and answers
Format
The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (first three points in the agenda) will be given in English.
We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, and Spanish. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page or send to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.
Natalia Rodriguez (the Community Tech manager) will be hosting this meeting.
Invitation link
- Join online
- Meeting ID: 898 2861 5390
- One tap mobile
- +16465588656,,89828615390# US (New York)
- +16699006833,,89828615390# US (San Jose)
- Dial by your location
See you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (討論) 2021年9月11號 (六) 03:04 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- 45 new Wikipedias now have access to the Growth features. [30]
- A majority of Wikipedias now have access to the Growth features. The Growth team has published an FAQ page about the features. This translatable FAQ covers the description of the features, how to use them, how to change the configuration, and more.
Problems
- All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on 14 September. This is planned at 14:00 UTC. [31]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 September. It will be on all wikis from 16 September (calendar).
- Starting this week, Wikipedia in Italian will receive weekly software updates on Wednesdays. It used to receive the updates on Thursdays. Due to this change, bugs will be noticed and fixed sooner. [32]
- You can add language links in the sidebar in the new Vector skin again. You do this by connecting the page to a Wikidata item. The new Vector skin has moved the language links but the new language selector cannot add language links yet. [33]
- The syntax highlight tool marks up code with different colours. It now can highlight 23 new code languages. Additionally,
golang
can now be used as an alias for the Go programming language, and a specialoutput
mode has been added to show a program's output. [34][35]
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2021年9月13號 (一) 15:35 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Growth features are now deployed to almost all Wikipedias. For the majority of small Wikipedias, the features are only available for experienced users, to test the features and configure them. Features will be available for newcomers starting on 20 September 2021.
- MediaWiki had a feature that would highlight local links to short articles in a different style. Each user could pick the size at which "stubs" would be highlighted. This feature was very bad for performance, and following a consultation, has been removed. [36]
- A technical change was made to the MonoBook skin to allow for easier maintenance and upkeep. This has resulted in some minor changes to HTML that make MonoBook's HTML consistent with other skins. Efforts have been made to minimize the impact on editors, but please ping Jon (WMF) on wiki or in phabricator if any problems are reported.
Problems
- There was a problem with search last week. Many search requests did not work for 2 hours because of an accidental restart of the search servers. [37]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 September. It will be on all wikis from 23 September (calendar).
- The meta=proofreadpage API has changed. The
piprop
parameter has been renamed toprpiprop
. API users should update their code to avoid unrecognized parameter warnings. Pywikibot users should upgrade to 6.6.0. [38]
Future changes
- The Reply tool will be deployed to the remaining wikis in the coming weeks. It is currently part of "討論工具" in Beta features at most wikis. You will be able to turn it off in Editing Preferences. [39]
- The previously announced change to how you obtain tokens from the API has been delayed to September 21 because of an incompatibility with Pywikibot. Bot operators using Pywikibot can follow T291202 for progress on a fix, and should plan to upgrade to 6.6.1 when it is released.
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2021年9月20號 (一) 18:32 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- iOS 15 has a new function called Private Relay (Apple website). This can hide the user's IP when they use Safari browser. This is like using a VPN in that we see another IP address instead. It is opt-in and only for those who pay extra for iCloud. It will come to Safari users on OSX later. There is a technical discussion about what this means for the Wikimedia wikis.
Problems
- Some gadgets and user-scripts add items to the portlets (article tools) part of the skin. A recent change to the HTML may have made those links a different font-size. This can be fixed by adding the CSS class
.vector-menu-dropdown-noicon
. [40]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 September. It will be on all wikis from 30 September (calendar).
- The GettingStarted extension was built in 2013, and provides an onboarding process for new account holders in a few versions of Wikipedia. However, the recently developed Growth features provide a better onboarding experience. Since the vast majority of Wikipedias now have access to the Growth features, GettingStarted will be deactivated starting on 4 October. [41]
- A small number of users will not be able to connect to the Wikimedia wikis after 30 September. This is because an old root certificate will no longer work. They will also have problems with many other websites. Users who have updated their software in the last five years are unlikely to have problems. Users in Europe, Africa and Asia are less likely to have immediate problems even if their software is too old. You can read more.
- You can receive notifications when someone leaves a comment on user talk page or mentions you in a talk page comment. Clicking the notification link will now bring you to the comment and highlight it. Previously, doing so brought you to the top of the section that contained the comment. You can find more information in T282029.
Future changes
- The Reply tool will be deployed to the remaining wikis in the coming weeks. It is currently part of "討論工具" in Beta features at most wikis. You will be able to turn it off in Editing Preferences. See the list of wikis. [42]
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2021年9月27號 (一) 22:22 (UTC)
Select You the question statements for candidates of Drafting Committee Movement Charter
編輯Into 2021-10-04 11:59:59 UTC you can select question statements for the candidates of Drafting Committee Movement Charter. ✍️ Dušan Kreheľ (傾偈) 2021年9月29號 (三) 23:32 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- A more efficient way of sending changes from Wikidata to Wikimedia wikis that show them has been enabled for the following 10 wikis: mediawiki.org, the Italian, Catalan, Hebrew and Vietnamese Wikipedias, French Wikisource, and English Wikivoygage, Wikibooks, Wiktionary and Wikinews. If you notice anything strange about how changes from Wikidata appear in recent changes or your watchlist on those wikis you can let the developers know.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 October. It will be on all wikis from 7 October (calendar).
- Some gadgets and bots that use the API to read the AbuseFilter log might break. The
hidden
property will no longer say an entry isimplicit
for unsuppressed log entries about suppressed edits. If your bot needs to know this, do a separate revision query. Additionally, the property will have the valuefalse
for visible entries; previously, it wasn't included in the response. [43] - A more efficient way of sending changes from Wikidata to Wikimedia wikis that show them will be enabled for all production wikis. If you notice anything strange about how changes from Wikidata appear in recent changes or your watchlist you can let the developers know.
Future changes
- You can soon get cross-wiki notifications in the iOS Wikipedia app. You can also get notifications as push notifications. More notification updates will follow in later versions. [44]
- The JavaScript variables
wgExtraSignatureNamespaces
,wgLegalTitleChars
, andwgIllegalFileChars
will soon be removed frommw.config
. These are not part of the "stable" variables available for use in wiki JavaScript. [45] - The JavaScript variables
wgCookiePrefix
,wgCookieDomain
,wgCookiePath
, andwgCookieExpiration
will soon be removed from mw.config. Scripts should instead usemw.cookie
from the "mediawiki.cookie" module. [46]
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2021年10月4號 (一) 16:31 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 October. It will be on all wikis from 14 October (calendar).
- The "auto-number headings" preference is being removed. You can read phab:T284921 for the reasons and discussion. This change was previously announced. A JavaScript snippet is available which can be used to create a Gadget on wikis that still want to support auto-numbering.
Meetings
- You can join a meeting about the Desktop Improvements. A demonstration version of the newest feature will be shown. The event will take place on Tuesday, 12 October at 16:00 UTC. See how to join.
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2021年10月11號 (一) 15:30 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Toolhub is a catalogue to make it easier to find software tools that can be used for working on the Wikimedia projects. You can read more.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 October. It will be on all wikis from 21 October (calendar).
Future changes
- The developers of the Wikipedia Android app are working on communication in the app. You can now answer questions in survey to help the development.
- 3–5% of editors may be blocked in the next few months. This is because of a new service in Safari, which is similar to a proxy or a VPN. It is called iCloud Private Relay. There is a discussion about this on Meta. The goal is to learn what iCloud Private Relay could mean for the communities.
- Wikimedia Enterprise is a new API for those who use a lot of information from the Wikimedia projects on other sites. It is a way to get big commercial users to pay for the data. There will soon be a copy of the Wikimedia Enterprise dataset. You can read more. You can also ask the team questions on Zoom on 22 October 15:00 UTC.
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2021年10月18號 (一) 20:53 (UTC)
Coolest Tool Award 2021: Call for nominations
編輯The third edition of the m:Coolest Tool Award is looking for nominations!
Tools play an essential role for the Wikimedia projects, and so do the many volunteer developers who experiment with new ideas and develop and maintain local and global solutions to support the Wikimedia communities. The Coolest Tool Award aims to recognize and celebrate the coolest tools in a variety of categories.
The awarded projects will be announced and showcased in a virtual ceremony in December. Deadline to submit nominations is October 27. More information: m:Coolest Tool Award. Thanks for your recommendations! -- SSethi (WMF) for the 2021 Coolest Tool Academy team 2021年10月19號 (二) 05:57 (UTC)
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編輯宜家維基媒體運動策略補助專案可以俾至多2000美金去實現你嘅計劃。撳入去了解更多
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The Coolest Tool Award 2021 is looking for nominations. You can recommend tools until 27 October.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 October. It will be on all wikis from 28 October (calendar).
Future changes
- Diff pages will have an improved copy and pasting experience. The changes will allow the text in the diff for before and after to be treated as separate columns and will remove any unwanted syntax. [47]
- The version of the Liberation fonts used in SVG files will be upgraded. Only new thumbnails will be affected. Liberation Sans Narrow will not change. [48]
Meetings
- You can join a meeting about the Community Wishlist Survey. News about the disambiguation and the real-time preview wishes will be shown. The event will take place on Wednesday, 27 October at 14:30 UTC. See how to join.
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2021年10月25號 (一) 20:08 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- There is a limit on the amount of emails a user can send each day. This limit is now global instead of per-wiki. This change is to prevent abuse. [49]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 November. It will be on all wikis from 4 November (calendar).
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2021年11月1號 (一) 20:28 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Mobile IP editors are now able to receive warning notices indicating they have a talk page message on the mobile website (similar to the orange banners available on desktop). These notices will be displayed on every page outside of the main namespace and every time the user attempts to edit. The notice on desktop now has a slightly different colour. [50][51]
Changes later this week
- Wikidata will be read-only for a few minutes on 11 November. This will happen around 06:00 UTC. This is for database maintenance. [52]
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Future changes
- In the future, unregistered editors will be given an identity that is not their IP address. This is for legal reasons. A new user right will let editors who need to know the IPs of unregistered accounts to fight vandalism, spam, and harassment, see the IP. You can read the suggestions for how that identity could work and discuss on the talk page.
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2021年11月8號 (一) 20:36 (UTC)
要用新方法守護《東方日報》系列嘅消息……
編輯近嚟發現咗啲唔顯眼然而頗重要嘅新問題……常用嘅系統Wayback Machine,有技術缺陷或惡意設計,唔會妥當噉樣儲存屬於東方報業集團嘅嘢,即係話,當原網頁重喺度,就會睇落紀錄正常,當原網頁刪除咗,就會睇唔返……認真唔易發現……建議各位以後引用時,用雅虎新聞轉載版做參考網址;若果段消息睇落無乜爭議,唔似會引嚟激烈反應而搞到迅速消失,就可以唔使自己即刻行埋下一步;有部慢呑呑嘅機械人會跟首尾,將資料保存於Internet Archive。--110.174.132.162(討論) 2021年11月13號 (六) 06:58 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Most large file uploads errors that had messages like "
stashfailed
" or "DBQueryError
" have now been fixed. An incident report is available.
Problems
- Sometimes, edits made on iOS using the visual editor save groups of numbers as telephone number links, because of a feature in the operating system. This problem is under investigation. [53]
- There was a problem with search last week. Many search requests did not work for 2 hours because of a configuration error. [54]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 November. It will be on all wikis from 18 November (calendar).
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2021年11月15號 (一) 22:06 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
- The template dialog in VisualEditor and in the new wikitext mode Beta feature will be heavily improved on a few wikis. Your feedback is welcome.
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2021年11月22號 (一) 20:02 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 December. It will be on all wikis from 2 December (calendar).
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2021年11月29號 (一) 21:15 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- MediaWiki 1.38-wmf.11 was scheduled to be deployed on some wikis last week. The deployment was delayed because of unexpected problems.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 December. It will be on all wikis from 9 December (calendar).
- At all Wikipedias, a Mentor Dashboard is now available at
Special:MentorDashboard
. It allows registered mentors, who take care of newcomers' first steps, to monitor their assigned newcomers' activity. It is part of the Growth features. You can learn more about activating the mentor list on your wiki and about the mentor dashboard project. - The predecessor to the current MediaWiki Action API (which was created in 2008),
action=ajax
, will be removed this week. Any scripts or bots using it will need to switch to the corresponding API module. [55] - An old ResourceLoader module,
jquery.jStorage
, which was deprecated in 2016, will be removed this week. Any scripts or bots using it will need to switch tomediawiki.storage
instead. [56]
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2021年12月6號 (一) 21:59 (UTC)
過濾器設置問題
編輯粵語維基個過濾器成日都有錯判問題同嚇走熱心編輯者。例如我最近寫嘅狼'97黃金自選輯同在路旁,因為喺Template:tracklist度有書面語嘅歌名,就全部中嗮“國文”標籤。而成篇文除咗呢啲位就冇任何非粵語嘅嘢。@H78c67c:所以喺呢度要提出要去將Template:tracklist剔除喺個過濾器審查位到。唔係個過濾器只會失去本意。特克斯特 (傾偈) 2021年12月12號 (日) 15:49 (UTC)
- 反而啲純粹將粵文改做國文嘅改動,過濾器係完全過濾唔到,最近先有生寶IP人將啲「嘅、係」改做「的、是」,反而呢啲過濾器係無禁止,好難唔令人覺得過濾器嘅設計係有問題。——Z423x5c6 (傾偈) 2021年12月12號 (日) 16:33 (UTC)
- 內文過濾器同埋摘要係最少有兩個過濾器做處理嘅,內文嘅過濾器主要係對未有自動確認嘅戶口;有啲個別嘅用戶曾經係專門喺摘要嗰度加咗國文嘅用字,而要設定嘅。相信上面特兄所遇到嘅情況多數都係後者。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年12月13號 (一) 00:55 (UTC)
- 喺大部份文章被改做國文嘅情況多數都被阻,但好似記得都有一個容忍程度 (Tolerance),去應對一啲特別嘅情況,喺非必要用到呢類字嘅時候會用得到。曾經呢種過濾器試過熄咗唔容許保存,但熄咗之後嗰類嘅修改就多咗好多,跟嘅手尾又會多咗,喺非不得嘅情況之下一定要開返過濾器唔容許保存。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年12月13號 (一) 01:02 (UTC)
- @特克斯特:呢類嘅修改只係會加上標籤,唔影響保存,加呢個標籤都係會俾其他人睇返呢類嘅編輯有冇呢類嘅問題;但加上過濾器例外喺呢種情況嘅話,我個人可能會覺得可能有一啲有心改嘢嘅人士會利用呢啲標籤或者模去規避加入國文嘅改嘢行為,因為技術上佢可以連埋呢啲標籤加上去,然後再拎走呢啲標籤去做到加入國文嘅目的。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年12月13號 (一) 01:20 (UTC)
- 喺大部份文章被改做國文嘅情況多數都被阻,但好似記得都有一個容忍程度 (Tolerance),去應對一啲特別嘅情況,喺非必要用到呢類字嘅時候會用得到。曾經呢種過濾器試過熄咗唔容許保存,但熄咗之後嗰類嘅修改就多咗好多,跟嘅手尾又會多咗,喺非不得嘅情況之下一定要開返過濾器唔容許保存。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年12月13號 (一) 01:02 (UTC)
- @Shinjiman、Z423x5c6:雖然都成功遞交到嗰次嘅編輯,但係依家變咗次次一寫呢類文(凡係用到Template:tracklist嘅),就每次都要禁2次發佈修改先至成功遞交,咁樣對編者都搞到成日唔方便。至於你話利用Template:tracklist去特登將改做非粵語嘅嘢,我就覺得唔太可能。依家大多數歌名(即係用到Template:tracklist嘅),都係書面語嚟。喺Template:tracklist嗰設計上亦都唔係寫正文嘅地方,基本上都係照搬出版資料嘅嘢落去。同內容、正文上其實好唔一樣。至於你話為咗避走「國文」過濾器,而特登喺編輯嗰陣放個空白嘅Template:tracklist落編文度更加唔可能。就算話喺修改正文上,怕過濾器因為檢測到有Template:tracklist嘅存在,而唔會檢測得到喺正文上改做非粵語嘅嘢,我就建議可以將Template:tracklist嘅title參數可以加入白名單。
- 簡單啲嚟講,篇文用咗Template:tracklist,而喺嗰個Template上特登修改做書面語嘅做法,我就從來未見過嘅。因為呢類文章(專輯文)基本上畀佢哋改做北方話嘅空間係好少咁濟,建議可以加Template:tracklist落個白名單度睇下效果同成效先。
- 至於你畀「濫用過濾器管理」嗰2條拎,其實除咗你同User:H78c67c外,我哋乜嘢都睇唔到,完全唔知背後過濾器嘅成效點樣。包括管理員都未必睇得到,如果可以嘅話,建議將過濾器嗰度嘅情況,轉做公開,如果利用白名單嘢去改北話嘢嘅情況係比我哋想像中嚴重嘅話,可以再做調整。特克斯特 (傾偈) 2021年12月13號 (一) 21:41 (UTC)
- 至於過濾器嘅設定細節,係唔打算將佢改做公開,因為一定會有有心人士利用有關嘅漏動去加入國文,但可以透露一啲基本用得到嘅國文用嘅字,以及喺WP:CHEAT上面列出國維上面用到嘅行話,基本上都會過濾出嚟嘅。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年12月14號 (二) 00:43 (UTC)
- @特克斯特、Shinjiman:其實成日話會有「有心人士」嚟搞破壞,真係斬腳趾避沙蟲,反而嗮咗啲長期貢獻者嘅時間,而且亦都違反「假定善意」嘅原則,會唔會考慮改做自動確認用戶有得豁免?另外,有啲過濾器設定係「禁止」,但係又無足夠嘅提示畀新用戶知道究竟有咩問題,次次都要上嚟呢度問,其實真係好趕客,相關方面會唔會有啲改善嘅方法,例如彈個警告訊息出嚟,可以清楚話畀新用戶知啲所謂國維行話係乜嘢?——Z423x5c6 (傾偈) 2021年12月14號 (二) 10:49 (UTC)
- 有關嘅警告提醒字句,我啱啱加咗條拎,拎過去有關行話嗰版,喺現時嘅設定度,未有自動確認狀態嘅戶口先至會唔容許保存,但已經有自動確認狀態嘅戶口係會仍然會有警告提醒嘅字句,唔會影響保存嘅動作。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年12月14號 (二) 14:22 (UTC)
- 多謝前輩從善如流。—— Z423x5c6 (傾偈) 2021年12月14號 (二) 17:21 (UTC)
- 講起「Wikipedia:出貓紙」,以前明明喺編輯頁有連結去「Wikipedia:行話」或者「Wikipedia:出貓紙」,改過版之後好似再見唔到?同埋擺返條連結去當眼位之後,或者可以考慮將「國維行話」過濾器改為先警告後標籤(唔攔截),即係同「未閂好嘅標籤」過濾器一樣。SC96 (傾偈) 2021年12月15號 (三) 12:26 (UTC)
- 已經有一個過濾器係做緊上面嘅嘢,全部用戶包埋管理員都會加標籤而唔會有警告同埋唔會唔容許保存。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年12月15號 (三) 14:25 (UTC)
- 其實我係奇怪點解「國維行話」過濾器而家淨係會出標籤而唔會向編者出警告……不過多謝回應。SC96 (傾偈) 2021年12月15號 (三) 14:40 (UTC)
- 因為唔只一個過濾器會用得到呢個標籤,出警告同埋唔容許保存嘅係由另一個過濾器負責,但呢個過濾器嘅對象係IP用戶同埋未有自動確認嘅用戶,而且呢個過濾器當有配合條件嗰陣係會唔容許保存,當中嘅條件亦都包括埋『國維行話』用到嘅字,作為配合條件嘅一部份。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年12月15號 (三) 16:30 (UTC)
- @Shinjiman、Z423x5c6、Deryck Chan:啱啱改過MediaWiki:Editpage-head-copy-warn,順便加埋Wikipedia:出貓紙條拎,如果覺得唔OK可以反轉。SC96 (傾偈) 2021年12月18號 (六) 14:33 (UTC)
- 因為唔只一個過濾器會用得到呢個標籤,出警告同埋唔容許保存嘅係由另一個過濾器負責,但呢個過濾器嘅對象係IP用戶同埋未有自動確認嘅用戶,而且呢個過濾器當有配合條件嗰陣係會唔容許保存,當中嘅條件亦都包括埋『國維行話』用到嘅字,作為配合條件嘅一部份。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年12月15號 (三) 16:30 (UTC)
- 其實我係奇怪點解「國維行話」過濾器而家淨係會出標籤而唔會向編者出警告……不過多謝回應。SC96 (傾偈) 2021年12月15號 (三) 14:40 (UTC)
- 已經有一個過濾器係做緊上面嘅嘢,全部用戶包埋管理員都會加標籤而唔會有警告同埋唔會唔容許保存。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年12月15號 (三) 14:25 (UTC)
- 有關嘅警告提醒字句,我啱啱加咗條拎,拎過去有關行話嗰版,喺現時嘅設定度,未有自動確認狀態嘅戶口先至會唔容許保存,但已經有自動確認狀態嘅戶口係會仍然會有警告提醒嘅字句,唔會影響保存嘅動作。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年12月14號 (二) 14:22 (UTC)
- @特克斯特、Shinjiman:其實成日話會有「有心人士」嚟搞破壞,真係斬腳趾避沙蟲,反而嗮咗啲長期貢獻者嘅時間,而且亦都違反「假定善意」嘅原則,會唔會考慮改做自動確認用戶有得豁免?另外,有啲過濾器設定係「禁止」,但係又無足夠嘅提示畀新用戶知道究竟有咩問題,次次都要上嚟呢度問,其實真係好趕客,相關方面會唔會有啲改善嘅方法,例如彈個警告訊息出嚟,可以清楚話畀新用戶知啲所謂國維行話係乜嘢?——Z423x5c6 (傾偈) 2021年12月14號 (二) 10:49 (UTC)
- 至於過濾器嘅設定細節,係唔打算將佢改做公開,因為一定會有有心人士利用有關嘅漏動去加入國文,但可以透露一啲基本用得到嘅國文用嘅字,以及喺WP:CHEAT上面列出國維上面用到嘅行話,基本上都會過濾出嚟嘅。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年12月14號 (二) 00:43 (UTC)
- 至於你畀「濫用過濾器管理」嗰2條拎,其實除咗你同User:H78c67c外,我哋乜嘢都睇唔到,完全唔知背後過濾器嘅成效點樣。包括管理員都未必睇得到,如果可以嘅話,建議將過濾器嗰度嘅情況,轉做公開,如果利用白名單嘢去改北話嘢嘅情況係比我哋想像中嚴重嘅話,可以再做調整。特克斯特 (傾偈) 2021年12月13號 (一) 21:41 (UTC)
- 簡單啲嚟講,篇文用咗Template:tracklist,而喺嗰個Template上特登修改做書面語嘅做法,我就從來未見過嘅。因為呢類文章(專輯文)基本上畀佢哋改做北方話嘅空間係好少咁濟,建議可以加Template:tracklist落個白名單度睇下效果同成效先。
- @Shinjiman、H78c67c、Z423x5c6、Deryck Chan:「唔會影響保存嘅動作」,不過我喺上面亦都提咗幾次,係依家變咗每次寫同類型嘅文章,都要禁2次遞交先至成功,有冇得好似平常咁,禁1次就直接遞交得到?即係將Template:tracklist加入白名單度,依家啲歌名,基本上係冇可能,甚至唔存在加入或刻意修改做「國文」內容。依家喺粵維完全未發生過畀有心人利用Template:tracklist去改做「國文」內容,就連加入白名單個做法,都唔肯,係咪去到假定惡意編輯者嘅程度?你上面話放寬咗會帶嚟多手尾呢個理由亦都唔成立,因為唔係針對Template:tracklist+呢個Template嘅用法同正文行文嘅情況根本好唔同(呢點上面亦解釋過)。
- 另外,咁個過濾器日誌設定,有冇得放寬做管理員權限嘅用戶都睇得到?咁樣唔會去到被「有心人」利用呢個設定去修改「國文」。你冇理由假設啲管理員因為睇到呢個日誌,而認為管理員會利用呢啲細節去刻意修改做「國文」內容。雖然我有印象User:Kowlooner都講過個過濾器到底有冇咁神秘(佢嗰陣話連meta嘅都公開睇到)。所以,鑒於粵維嘅情況放寬到管理員權限嘅用戶都睇到,我諗唔會成問題,亦唔會帶嚟好多手尾要跟。特克斯特 (傾偈) 2021年12月14號 (二) 16:45 (UTC)
- 其實任何管理員想睇私人過濾器嘅話,加權落自己度就得。 H78c67c·傾偈 2021年12月14號 (二) 17:43 (UTC)
- 基於技術上嘅原因,喺上面我都講過,呢類情況係唔會睇返視乎有冇用嗰個模,因為個用戶可能會加入個模嘅同時,喺個模範圍以外加入非粵文嘅嘢入去,如果加咗呢類嘅『白名單』(講嘅係用有關模嘅名單,而唔係個別用戶),噉呢類嘅加料情況係會過濾唔到,呢個亦唔係預期得到嘅結果。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年12月15號 (三) 00:53 (UTC)
- 另外喺維基元嘅過濾器,我個人都係會睇唔到嗰邊嘅私人過濾器裏面嘅嘢,只係會睇得到公開咗嘅過濾器內容。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年12月15號 (三) 00:57 (UTC)
- 內文過濾器同埋摘要係最少有兩個過濾器做處理嘅,內文嘅過濾器主要係對未有自動確認嘅戶口;有啲個別嘅用戶曾經係專門喺摘要嗰度加咗國文嘅用字,而要設定嘅。相信上面特兄所遇到嘅情況多數都係後者。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年12月13號 (一) 00:55 (UTC)
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編輯警告:你嘅編輯觸發咗過濾器,因為你似乎加咗一大堆國文入篇文度;當中亦都有可能加咗一啲語體中文用到,而喺粵文維基百科用唔到嘅行話,喺呢度可以搵到有關嘅細節。 如果你肯定你呢次嘅編輯無錯嘅,請撳多次『儲存呢頁』,再報告呢個錯誤。
呢句信息係用響5號過濾器度
你嘅動作已經觸發咗濫用過濾器
哈佬,歡迎嚟到維基百科!歡迎你一齊編文。粵語維基百科用粵語寫文,唔收用國語寫嘅嘢,唔該。想知多啲,睇下Wikipedia:粵語用辭同Wikipedia:廣東話本字。祝你寫得開開心心! 致大量訊息傳送用戶,請喺傳送訊息之前一定用Language Select過濾咗做粵文或者本身嘅語言先,唔係嘅話就唔一定會保存得到入去。同時直接抄自語體中文文本嘅行話嘅行為亦都會被禁止,請先修改有關文本到粵文。請睇phab:T254607嘅有關細節。
For the Mass Message Sender, please implement the Language Select function prior to sending the message, or your message may be prevented from being saved here. Any texts copied from the Mandarin (zh/cmn) texts will also be banned, please modify them into Cantonese. Please see phab:T254607 for more details.
- @Shinjiman:如果音樂作品(譬如Category:臺灣專輯、Category:香港專輯、Category:中國專輯)同埋影視作品(包括唔限於節目名稱、歌曲名稱)嘅官方名稱係國文(譬如YesAsia或KKBOX所提供嘅資料),應該點樣處理?--192.192.13.101(討論) 2021年12月14號 (二) 11:21 (UTC)
- 對於IP用戶,呢個限制係基於防止被破壞嘅考慮。喺一個戶口拎咗自動確認之後嘅情況之下,呢個限制就會自動解除,有關解釋請睇返之前嘅討論。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年12月14號 (二) 14:10 (UTC)
- @Shinjiman、H78c67c、Deryck Chan:咁過濾器喺技術上有冇得加入特定IP用戶/地址,去寬免無名氏用戶?例如User:192.192.13.101、User:110.174.132.162、User:165.228.11.59,呢幾位常客。生寶IP加入落白名單度的確會有手尾跟,但係成日活躍嘅IP,睇埋佢哋冇加過/刻意修改做非粵語嘅嘢(歌名、影視作品嗰啲另計),技術上有冇得將呢啲成日活躍嘅固定IP加入白名單到?超過半年都冇再活躍,再喺白名單度剔除佢哋(防止被濫用),咁樣都可以確保夠穩妥。特克斯特 (傾偈) 2021年12月14號 (二) 16:45 (UTC)
- 我已經加咗165以及192呢兩個IP入咗白名單度,至於110呢個IP喺大約半年前左右由H78c67c兄加咗入去。之後會繼續睇住,如果有刻意加入非粵文嘅嘢嘅話,我會即刻將有關嘅用戶喺白名單度拎走。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年12月15號 (三) 01:06 (UTC)
- 啱啱睇過192呢個IP係屬於臺灣國立圖書館嘅,唔肯定係咪公共IP嚟。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年12月16號 (四) 04:11 (UTC)
- @Shinjiman:多謝你嘅關心,事實上唔係所有公共IP都係代理嘅!通常畀人當作係Open Proxy嘅情況需要滿足嘅條件就係有冇明顯破壞(譬如3RR),又或者你成日寫落一的唔關事嘅內容(包括唔限於人身攻擊)先至叫代理(睇埋假定善意)。譬如你想寫一篇文章叫做Oh My God有限公司,咁你就唔好用呢間公司嘅IP寫嘢(冇論你有無開返戶口),因為Wikipedia始終唔係賣廣告嘅地方,如果你噉做就好容易畀人當作係Spambot嚟嘅,咁樣先至叫做代理。本無名氏始終保持良好貢獻,而且間中都有反轉襪公仔編輯做反破壞(譬如成人玩具掌櫃所寫嘅嘢,如果呢個固定IP真係畀人鎖咗就打算收工唔寫,回歸正常生活都OK嘅)。關於開返戶口嘅事從來冇諗過。(其實就因為好驚怕,當然要畀心機寫文喇!!)--192.192.13.101(討論) 2021年12月16號 (二) 08:17 (UTC)
- 維基元有個政策,係禁止開放式代理改嘢,不論係唔係有任何嘅破壞行為都係禁止嘅,但要睇返呢種嘅代理係唔係開放式代理先。如果係嘅話,就建議閣下開返個戶口,然後再申請IP封鎖例外就得。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年12月16號 (四) 08:38 (UTC)
- @Shinjiman:寫?定唔寫?--192.192.13.101(討論) 2021年12月16號 (二) 08:17 (UTC)
- 近呢幾日192.192.13.101有喺國維英維改過嘢,都冇俾佢哋睇成開放代理(en:Wikipedia:Open proxy detection、zh:Wikipedia:Open proxy detection)。— 之前未簽名嘅留言係由SC96(留言 • 貢獻)響2021年12月16號 (四) 13:21 (UTC)所加入嘅。
- 維基元有個政策,係禁止開放式代理改嘢,不論係唔係有任何嘅破壞行為都係禁止嘅,但要睇返呢種嘅代理係唔係開放式代理先。如果係嘅話,就建議閣下開返個戶口,然後再申請IP封鎖例外就得。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年12月16號 (四) 08:38 (UTC)
- @Shinjiman:多謝你嘅關心,事實上唔係所有公共IP都係代理嘅!通常畀人當作係Open Proxy嘅情況需要滿足嘅條件就係有冇明顯破壞(譬如3RR),又或者你成日寫落一的唔關事嘅內容(包括唔限於人身攻擊)先至叫代理(睇埋假定善意)。譬如你想寫一篇文章叫做Oh My God有限公司,咁你就唔好用呢間公司嘅IP寫嘢(冇論你有無開返戶口),因為Wikipedia始終唔係賣廣告嘅地方,如果你噉做就好容易畀人當作係Spambot嚟嘅,咁樣先至叫做代理。本無名氏始終保持良好貢獻,而且間中都有反轉襪公仔編輯做反破壞(譬如成人玩具掌櫃所寫嘅嘢,如果呢個固定IP真係畀人鎖咗就打算收工唔寫,回歸正常生活都OK嘅)。關於開返戶口嘅事從來冇諗過。(其實就因為好驚怕,當然要畀心機寫文喇!!)--192.192.13.101(討論) 2021年12月16號 (二) 08:17 (UTC)
- 啱啱睇過192呢個IP係屬於臺灣國立圖書館嘅,唔肯定係咪公共IP嚟。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年12月16號 (四) 04:11 (UTC)
- 我已經加咗165以及192呢兩個IP入咗白名單度,至於110呢個IP喺大約半年前左右由H78c67c兄加咗入去。之後會繼續睇住,如果有刻意加入非粵文嘅嘢嘅話,我會即刻將有關嘅用戶喺白名單度拎走。 Shinjiman ⇔ ♨ 2021年12月15號 (三) 01:06 (UTC)
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編輯Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- There are now default short aliases for the "Project:" namespace on most wikis. E.g. On Wikibooks wikis,
[[WB:]]
will go to the local language default for the[[Project:]]
namespace. This change is intended to help the smaller communities have easy access to this feature. Additional local aliases can still be requested via the usual process. [57]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 December. It will be on all wikis from 16 December (calendar).
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2021年12月13號 (一) 22:27 (UTC)
新空間名捷徑
編輯最近見 @Z423x5c6 開咗幾篇跨空間名跳轉,作為分類捷徑。好唔好正式增設CAT:
空間名捷徑,而唔係用偽空間名呢? H78c67c·傾偈 2021年12月18號 (六) 21:32 (UTC)
- 好,舉腳贊成。 ——z423x5c6(傾偈) 2021年12月19號 (日) 10:27 (UTC)
- 我唔係咁支持。例如英文維基都冇將CAT:變成正式空間名捷徑([58])。分類捷徑嘅使用需要應該唔多?翹仔 (傾偈) 2021年12月30號 (四) 22:58 (UTC)
- @H78c67c、Deryck Chan:我用開就應該係CAT:B, CAT:MOVE, CAT:STUB三個。其實開唔開空間名捷徑係咪純粹技術層面嘅嘢,唔影響使用?如果係嘅話我無乜意見,開唔開都得。 ——z423x5c6(傾偈) 2021年12月31號 (五) 10:06 (UTC)
- 應該係因為分類喺維基字裡面有特別用途,所以唔想咁多空間名捷徑。正常來講,分類冇別名、冇調轉(睇Template:Category redirect)。如果 CAT: 變咗空間名捷徑,而家嗰個用法反而要加多個冒號,冇咁方便添。 翹仔 (傾偈) 2021年12月31號 (五) 13:10 (UTC)
- @H78c67c、Deryck Chan:我用開就應該係CAT:B, CAT:MOVE, CAT:STUB三個。其實開唔開空間名捷徑係咪純粹技術層面嘅嘢,唔影響使用?如果係嘅話我無乜意見,開唔開都得。 ——z423x5c6(傾偈) 2021年12月31號 (五) 10:06 (UTC)
- 我估英文維基冇將CAT:變成正式空間名捷徑係因為驚同現實中其他嘢嘅名有衝突?(真係純粹估)我覺得CAT:呢個開頭應該冇咩機會會同其他嘢撞名比較細,況且粵文維基可以用「:」而唔用「:」。而家粵維除咗有「WP:」之外,仲有用「H:」同「P:」,我諗「CAT:」都係會方便到編者嘅。--Sun8908(傾偈) 2021年12月31號 (五) 11:07 (UTC)
- 我問過 MediaWiki 開發團隊,佢哋話而家嘅技術唔可以本土化個冒號。 翹仔 (傾偈) 2021年12月31號 (五) 12:47 (UTC)
- 長智識了,我真係唔知有「H:」同「P:」。補充埋,仲有「T:」for template。 ——z423x5c6(傾偈) 2021年12月31號 (五) 12:52 (UTC)
- 我問過 MediaWiki 開發團隊,佢哋話而家嘅技術唔可以本土化個冒號。 翹仔 (傾偈) 2021年12月31號 (五) 12:47 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Tech News
- Because of the holidays the next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 10 January 2022.
Recent changes
- Queries made by the DynamicPageList extension (
<DynamicPageList>
) are now only allowed to run for 10 seconds and error if they take longer. This is in response to multiple outages where long-running queries caused an outage on all wikis. [59]
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week or next week.
Future changes
- The developers of the Wikipedia iOS app are looking for testers who edit in multiple languages. You can read more and let them know if you are interested.
- The Wikimedia Cloud VPS hosts technical projects for the Wikimedia movement. Developers need to claim projects they use. This is because old and unused projects are removed once a year. Unclaimed projects can be shut down from February. [60]
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2021年12月20號 (一) 22:05 (UTC)
Community Wishlist Survey 2022 is coming. Help us!
編輯The Community Wishlist Survey 2022 starts in less than two weeks (Monday 10 January 2022, 18:00 UTC). We, the team organizing the Survey, need your help.
Only you can make the difference
How many people will hear and read about the Survey in their language? How many will decide to participate? Will there be enough of you to vote for a change you would like to see? It all depends on you, volunteers.
Why are we asking?
- We have improved the documentation. It's friendlier and easier to use. This will mean little if it's only in English.
- Thousands of volunteers haven't participated in the Survey yet. We'd like to improve that, too. Three years ago, 1387 people participated. Last year, there were 1773 of them. We hope that in the upcoming edition, there will be even more. You are better than us in contacting Wikimedians outside of wikis. We have prepared some images to share. More to come.
What is the Community Wishlist Survey?
It's an annual survey that allows contributors to the Wikimedia projects to propose and vote for tools and platform improvements. Long years of experience in editing or technical skills are not required.
Thanks, and be safe and successful in 2022! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 2021年12月29號 (三) 03:15 (UTC)